Comments on: The Curmudgeon v. The Candle (of Hope) http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/ He has made everything beautiful in His time. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:04:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: A Time to Laugh » Blog Archive » More Familiar than Funny http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-162566 A Time to Laugh » Blog Archive » More Familiar than Funny Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:20:15 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-162566 [...] like the Shakers. Really. The individual (tail)spinning and twitching developed over time (due to outside criticism) [...] [...] like the Shakers. Really. The individual (tail)spinning and twitching developed over time (due to outside criticism) [...]

]]> By: stacy http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158774 stacy Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:46:10 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158774 I know that we don't celebrate the exact Advent celebration, I can say assuredly though that after the service we had this am we are absolutely celebrating the wonder of our Savior and His "advent". I am incredibly thankful that in our differences we serve the same Savior and are recipients of the same amazing grace. I know that we don’t celebrate the exact Advent celebration, I can say assuredly though that after the service we had this am we are absolutely celebrating the wonder of our Savior and His “advent”. I am incredibly thankful that in our differences we serve the same Savior and are recipients of the same amazing grace.

]]> By: Steve http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158681 Steve Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:46:08 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158681 Camille. No, I am not saying that the problem is yours alone . . . as I mentioned first thing, it saddens me and I am sorry that you experienced the "Scrooge-like" ones. This is not a personal attack. I am not trying to "blame" anyone. I again just wish you would not paint all independent fundamental baptists with the same broad brush. If I only knew of your experience, as logged over the years on this blog, I would think almost all IFBs were narrow, unloving hypocrites, and we both know that is not true. Camille. No, I am not saying that the problem is yours alone . . . as I mentioned first thing, it saddens me and I am sorry that you experienced the “Scrooge-like” ones. This is not a personal attack. I am not trying to “blame” anyone. I again just wish you would not paint all independent fundamental baptists with the same broad brush. If I only knew of your experience, as logged over the years on this blog, I would think almost all IFBs were narrow, unloving hypocrites, and we both know that is not true.

]]> By: cklewis http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158617 cklewis Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:14:01 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158617 Hm, Steve. So the problem is <i>mine</i> that I had such a Scrooge-like upbringing in church? That does keep things tidy. Hm, Steve. So the problem is mine that I had such a Scrooge-like upbringing in church?

That does keep things tidy.

]]> By: Steve http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158615 Steve Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:05:15 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158615 I am so sorry you experienced a totally different IFB from mine. We always celebrate the Christmas season all December, singing every Christmas song in the hymnal at least once. I wish you would not paint "us" IFBers with the same brush. It sounds like bitterness leaking out of your soul in a season which later in your post you so rightly point out should be about Celebrating the Advent of the Lord Jesus Christ! "We sang Christmas songs this morning at church. Imagine that — singing Christmas songs during the Christmas season. If you’ve never been a independent, fundamental Baptist, you have no idea what a gift that is. You see, Advent is a big no-no. And you don’t sing Christmas songs until the week of Christmas. Or maybe the two weeks before. And even then, the truly spiritual sing them almost grudgingly. Because Christmas is Catholic (i.e. pagan) and extending the Christmas season is commercial, we really should just ignore it altogether. The pious do!" I am so sorry you experienced a totally different IFB from mine. We always celebrate the Christmas season all December, singing every Christmas song in the hymnal at least once. I wish you would not paint “us” IFBers with the same brush. It sounds like bitterness leaking out of your soul in a season which later in your post you so rightly point out should be about Celebrating the Advent of the Lord Jesus Christ!

“We sang Christmas songs this morning at church. Imagine that — singing Christmas songs during the Christmas season. If you’ve never been a independent, fundamental Baptist, you have no idea what a gift that is. You see, Advent is a big no-no. And you don’t sing Christmas songs until the week of Christmas. Or maybe the two weeks before. And even then, the truly spiritual sing them almost grudgingly. Because Christmas is Catholic (i.e. pagan) and extending the Christmas season is commercial, we really should just ignore it altogether. The pious do!”

]]> By: Joy http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158558 Joy Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:40:34 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158558 Hi Camille, I read your blog from time to time as I'm from a Jonesian family and now disagree with much (ok, most) of that fundamentalist environment. Advent and Lent are two extraordinary celebrations that I never even knew about as I was growing up. I barely remember any celebration surrounding Easter except possibly being out of school on Good Friday and having that perennial church potluck on Easter Sunday. Our family chooses to celebrate Advent as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I really enjoyed reading. Hi Camille, I read your blog from time to time as I’m from a Jonesian family and now disagree with much (ok, most) of that fundamentalist environment. Advent and Lent are two extraordinary celebrations that I never even knew about as I was growing up. I barely remember any celebration surrounding Easter except possibly being out of school on Good Friday and having that perennial church potluck on Easter Sunday. Our family chooses to celebrate Advent as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I really enjoyed reading.

]]> By: Ashley http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158450 Ashley Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:24:13 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158450 Beautiful. this brings tears to my eyes in its truth: "All leaves intended for another purpose, resurrected for celebration." Thank you. Beautiful. this brings tears to my eyes in its truth: “All leaves intended for another purpose, resurrected for celebration.” Thank you.

]]> By: Megan@SortaCrunchy http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158432 Megan@SortaCrunchy Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:03:15 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158432 Thank you for these reflections, Camille. Do you know of any resources for Baptists/evangelicals who would like to celebrate Advent at home? I'm an SBCer, by the way, and I grew up singing Christmas carols in church the full month before Christmas. It's funny how even slight differences in doctrine play out. We hung the green and prepared for the celebrations of Christmas yesterday in our home church. :) Thank you for these reflections, Camille.

Do you know of any resources for Baptists/evangelicals who would like to celebrate Advent at home?

I’m an SBCer, by the way, and I grew up singing Christmas carols in church the full month before Christmas. It’s funny how even slight differences in doctrine play out. We hung the green and prepared for the celebrations of Christmas yesterday in our home church. :)

]]> By: cklewis http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158420 cklewis Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:31:02 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158420 I understand what you're saying, Stacy, and that's good. It's still not Advent. Really. Advent is something very, very different. I understand what you’re saying, Stacy, and that’s good. It’s still not Advent. Really. Advent is something very, very different.

]]> By: stacy http://www.drslewis.org/camille/2009/11/the-curmudgeon-v-the-candle-of-hope/comment-page-1/#comment-158418 stacy Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:21:08 +0000 http://www.drslewis.org/camille/?p=2411#comment-158418 I still go to a church you would most definitely define as IFB and we will start singing Christmas songs next week. We will CELEBRATE christmas all month. There will be signing before and after church. We will rejoice in the salvation given us by God. Our church is already decorated for Christmas with even (gasp) a Christmas tree in the foyer. We will celebrate the birth of Christ and yes the GRACE that that brings us all. In fact our Pastor mentions grace quite often. We aren't perfect but what you said doesn't characterize us at ALL! I still go to a church you would most definitely define as IFB and we will start singing Christmas songs next week. We will CELEBRATE christmas all month. There will be signing before and after church. We will rejoice in the salvation given us by God. Our church is already decorated for Christmas with even (gasp) a Christmas tree in the foyer. We will celebrate the birth of Christ and yes the GRACE that that brings us all. In fact our Pastor mentions grace quite often. We aren’t perfect but what you said doesn’t characterize us at ALL!

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