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These [evangelical] barriers [to supporting intellectual pursuits] include an immediatism that insists on action, decision, and even perfection right now<\/em>, a populism that confuses winning supporters with mastering actually existing situations, an anti-traditionalism that privileges one\u2019s own current judgments on biblical, theological, and ethical issues (however hastily formed) over insight from the past (however hard won and carefully stated), and a nearly gnostic dualism that rushes to spiritualize all manner of bodily, terrestrial, physical, and material realities (despite the origin and providential maintenance of these realities in God). In addition, we evangelicals as a rule still prefer to put our money into programs offering immediate results, whether evangelistic or humanitarian, instead of into institutions promoting intellectual development over the long term.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I’m still sitting on this from Mark Noll<\/a>. No doubt American exceptionalism, individualism, capitalism are all knit together with American Evangelicalism. No doubt Evangelicalism is wholly New World — a swing of the pendulum that opposed Old World aristocracy and feudalism. But it, too, has become its own aristocracy. Is it just a hard push to balance out the swinging pendulous ball? Or do we need to start all over and make a new way to talk about faith in this postmodern condition?<\/p>\n

The rhetorician in me says that there is no new way of talking and trying to do so\u00a0will only ignorantly replicate and even reinforce the same problems. Noll wants to talk in an older way — more like Jonathan Edwards and less like Rick Warren, more historically Protestant than currently relevant.<\/p>\n

I can go for that. In reading his listing of such traditions:<\/p>\n

The current dilemma for Christian learning in North America could be broadly described as follows. On the one side, Pentecostals, Southern Baptists, members of Holiness movements, seeker-sensitive churches, dispensationalists, Adventists, African-American congregations, radical Wesleyans, and lowest-common-denominator evangelicals have great spiritual energy, but they flounder in putting the mind to use for Christ. On the other side, Lutherans, Catholics, Anglo-Catholics, the Reformed, and the Eastern Orthodox enjoy incredibly rich traditions that include sterling examples of Christian thought, but they often display a comatose spirituality.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I realized that the only place I really fit is “Reformed.” So I’ve dropped the moniker “Reformedish” and have gone whole-hog with stating the obvious.<\/p>\n

So please excuse me\u00a0now while I start memorizing my new confession<\/a>. \ud83d\ude42 My tulip theme seems even more appropriate.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

These [evangelical] barriers [to supporting intellectual pursuits] include an immediatism that insists on action, decision,<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-446","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-think"],"yoast_head":"\nNoodling with Noll - A Time To Laugh<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2007\/03\/16\/noodling-with-noll\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Camille Lewis\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2007\\\/03\\\/16\\\/noodling-with-noll\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2007\\\/03\\\/16\\\/noodling-with-noll\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Camille Lewis\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e93a8c9ec8fb8b926471114158437f82\"},\"headline\":\"Noodling with Noll\",\"datePublished\":\"2007-03-17T00:58:10+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2007\\\/03\\\/16\\\/noodling-with-noll\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":401,\"commentCount\":3,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e93a8c9ec8fb8b926471114158437f82\"},\"articleSection\":[\"Think\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2007\\\/03\\\/16\\\/noodling-with-noll\\\/#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2007\\\/03\\\/16\\\/noodling-with-noll\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2007\\\/03\\\/16\\\/noodling-with-noll\\\/\",\"name\":\"Noodling with Noll - 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