{"id":774,"date":"2008-03-09T10:00:08","date_gmt":"2008-03-09T15:00:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2008\/03\/09\/ebenezer-the-document\/"},"modified":"2017-07-13T16:29:22","modified_gmt":"2017-07-13T20:29:22","slug":"ebenezer-the-document","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2008\/03\/09\/ebenezer-the-document\/","title":{"rendered":"Ebenezer &#8212; The Document"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"lyrics\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-4205\" title=\"V&amp;A_-_Raphael,_St_Paul_Preaching_in_Athens_(1515)\" src=\"http:\/\/69.89.31.52\/~drslewis\/camille\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/VA_-_Raphael_St_Paul_Preaching_in_Athens_1515.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"461\" height=\"355\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/VA_-_Raphael_St_Paul_Preaching_in_Athens_1515.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/VA_-_Raphael_St_Paul_Preaching_in_Athens_1515-300x230.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/03\/VA_-_Raphael_St_Paul_Preaching_in_Athens_1515-624x480.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 461px) 100vw, 461px\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"lyrics\">The following night the Lord stood by him and said, &#8220;Take courage, for as you have testified to the facts about me in Jerusalem, so you must testify also in Rome.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p align=\"right\">Acts 23:11<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"left\">A sermon from the previous October on Acts continued to ring in my head. It was one of those room-spinning moments. Surely God didn&#8217;t want us to leave! I know now that He was holding our hand through the dark tunnel and, at times, yanking us through to the safe side. Just like a toddler who digs in his heels, we didn&#8217;t believe <em>leaving<\/em> would be best. Surely <em>not<\/em>! But like I learned way back when, <a title=\"Ebenezer 2.0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2008\/02\/14\/ebenezer-20\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">God loves us<\/a> and <a title=\"Here I Raise My Ebenezer\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2008\/02\/12\/here-i-raise-my-ebenezer-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">He carries us through to His best<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The rest of the semester was brutal. We had several painful meetings. It&#8217;s all too personal to describe here. I was just glad that it was over come Convocation.<\/p>\n<p>But it wasn&#8217;t over at all.<\/p>\n<p>Grant and I were called to a meeting the second week after school let out, this time in the Administration Building&#8217;s &#8220;holy of holies&#8221; with BJU&#8217;s first- and second-in-command, Stephen Jones and Gary Weier. Were we scared? You betcha.<\/p>\n<p>The tone of the meeting was very, very cordial. I was asked to take down <a title=\"Keswick Theology\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2005\/06\/15\/keswick-theology-aka-chaferianism\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a blog post<\/a> on an old, abandoned xanga blog. I agreed and did so immediately following the meeting. Now, I mentioned in this meeting that I had recently edited the post to remove <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jim_Berg\">a particular person<\/a>&#8216;s name. I had heard from Monica Raab about a phone call she&#8217;d received from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jim_Berg\">Jim Berg<\/a>. Jim had explained to Monica at length how frustrated <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jim_Berg\">he<\/a> was with <em>me<\/em>. I had a range of emotions at that time &#8212; from anger to disgust to hurt to complete confusion to finally sheer pity (to be so obsessed with <em>me<\/em>!). I had an email all written to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jim_Berg\">him<\/a> to say that &#8220;a little bird told me that you were frustrated by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2005\/06\/keswick-theology-aka-chaferianism\/\">this blog post<\/a>. I don&#8217;t want to add to your busy load. I&#8217;ve removed your name. Take care!&#8221; But I never sent it. I just edited the post. I figured that it would only fan the flames.<\/p>\n<p>With or without <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jim_Berg\">Jim Berg&#8217;s name explicitly listed<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2005\/06\/keswick-theology-aka-chaferianism\/\">the blog post<\/a> was too controversial to keep up, I was told. They were getting &#8220;several&#8221; letters about it. To their credit, they advised <a href=\"http:\/\/www.collegeparkministries.org\/insidelook_corner.htm\">one letter-writer, Matt Walker,<\/a> to go to me personally and discuss <a href=\"http:\/\/www.collegeparkministries.org\/insidelook_corner.htm\">his<\/a> concerns. He went to Grant (not me) and shied away pretty quickly from any actual discussion of the issues. I was now recognizing a recurring pattern of behavior in the culture: avoid controversy, avoid discussion, and avoid women.<\/p>\n<p>The second thing on the agenda was presented as follows: &#8220;We still need to resolve this disagreement, so we&#8217;d like you to write a statement of your position.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scribd.com\/doc\/97845174\/20070613-Gary-Weier-Correspondence-on-written-position-statement-on-sin\">Grant turned very practical and asked pointed questions in follow-up emails<\/a>. A statement on our position on <em>what<\/em> exactly? &#8220;Your position on sin.&#8221; Sin? Our position on <em>sin<\/em>?? What&#8217;s that mean? What&#8217;s that? You quote Romans 3 and maybe a couple of confessions, and you&#8217;re done, right? ::shrug::<\/p>\n<p>Grant pressed for further clarification. &#8220;Your position on sin in the Christian life.&#8221; was <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/file\/d\/0B6A7PtfmRgT7N2ZjYTFOb0k5QlU\/edit?usp=sharing\">the response<\/a>. Ah. Gotcha. I had been clued in by another friend that those within that <a title=\"Chaferianism or Keswick Theology\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2005\/06\/15\/keswick-theology-aka-chaferianism\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chaferian view of sanctification<\/a> believe that the standard &#8220;historical Protestant&#8221; (a euphemism for &#8220;Reformed&#8221;) position was &#8220;<a title=\"Perfectionism\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Christian_perfection\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">perfectionist<\/a>.&#8221; Nothing could be further from the truth, of course. They were obviously trying to be vague enough, it seems, to uh . . . well, give us enough rope to hang ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>What Stephen and Gary really wanted, whether they knew it or not (and what we actually presented) was our view of sanctification. So we took a step back and set our sites on writing more of a &#8220;big-picture&#8221; document.<\/p>\n<p>How would any of you feel if put into that kind of a position? We all know our theology in an &#8220;under the fingernails&#8221; sort of way: it&#8217;s woven into the moments of our lives and lived out in daily practicality. How many of us are ready to present a theological document that will stand up to the scrutiny of trained seminarians? Grant and I had four years of Bible classes under our belt, hardly a comprehensive view of systematic theology. But what I do know about is rhetoric, and I know from my friends trained in both rhetoric and religion that a good hermeneutic in one looks an awful lot like a good hermeneutic in the other.<\/p>\n<p>Since I still had a task to accomplish, I did what any good researcher would do: I collected good sources and started writing. Right at that moment and through His providential care, God sent a complete stranger &#8212; or rather a friend I hadn\u2019t met yet &#8212; to help. Chuck Hervas, BJU Board Member, passed along <a title=\"William Combs on Sanctification\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dbts.edu\/journals\/2001\/Combs.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a document that proved to be our chief resource<\/a>. It was exactly what I was praying we&#8217;d find &#8212; a conservative, fundamental <em>Baptist <\/em>source. Anyway, I know Chuck has read here, and I just wanted to tell him again how thankful I am for him and his listening to the Spirit&#8217;s prompting.<\/p>\n<p>I wrote a rough draft, and then Grant dug in. We went through the usual back-and-forth approach we take with our joint writing projects. Then we had some friends read the document. An M.Div from Westminster. A few BJ Seminary grads. Another theology Ph.D. Other well-informed friends. One said quite concisely: &#8220;It&#8217;s a good summary of the standard Evangelical view of sanctification.&#8221; Good!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/file\/d\/0B6A7PtfmRgT7N2ZjYTFOb0k5QlU\/edit?usp=sharing\">So some time in early June<\/a>, we submitted <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/file\/d\/0B6A7PtfmRgT7LTFLZTUwOXlWWUU\/edit?usp=sharing\">our position statement on the doctrine of soteriology<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And then we waited.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The following night the Lord stood by him and said, &#8220;Take courage, for as you<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,16,17,20,21,24],"tags":[981,295,651,706],"class_list":["post-774","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-education-learning-homeschooling","category-read","category-remember","category-speak","category-think","category-write","tag-chuck-hervas","tag-gary-weier","tag-sanctification","tag-stephen-jones"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ebenezer - The Document - A Time To Laugh<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.drslewis.org\/camille\/2008\/03\/09\/ebenezer-the-document\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Camille Lewis\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"5 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2008\\\/03\\\/09\\\/ebenezer-the-document\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/2008\\\/03\\\/09\\\/ebenezer-the-document\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Camille Lewis\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.drslewis.org\\\/camille\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e93a8c9ec8fb8b926471114158437f82\"},\"headline\":\"Ebenezer &#8212; 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