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Blogging Jeopardy

“I’ll take Quotable Quotes for a $1000, Alex.”

“I hope he never pretends to repent and asks forgiveness. I would then be compelled to forgive him, and I could never trust him. I would much rather things remain as they are so that I can continue to have nothing to do with him. . . . From my father I learned many important lessons in strategy which have stood me in good stead. One of them is, ‘Never retreat when you are under attack.’ I try to avoid any statement for which I might have to apologize. If my enemies try to use against me something I have said, I reply, ‘I said it, I meant it, and I will now reemphasize it.'”

“Who is _____?”

13 thoughts on “Blogging Jeopardy

  1. My guess was “Hitler.” I wasn’t joking. And when you told me the answer, I nearly dropped my teeth.

    What an awful, shameful indictment — and inflicted upon himself.

  2. I think I know who said it but I’m not sure who he was referencing.

    I’m also watching Jeopardy at the moment. 😉

  3. Yes, yes. You all guessed it. Bob Jones, Jr. in Cornbread and Caviar.

    I s’pose I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am. It’s an unfortunately revealing glimpse at the fundamentalist ethos.

  4. BJ Jr. for sure. I remember when he said in chapel that he wasn’t biblically required to forgive anyone UNTIL they asked him for forgiveness. He was hoping a certain someone wouldn’t ask for forgiveness. It was around the time of the Alexander Haig incident. I understood him to be making it quite clear that it was okay to hold a grudge. Yes, that attitude is alive and well today. There’s too much pride to ask for forgiveness for anything. I am now in the difficult position of trying to explain to my adult children why I sent them to Bob Jones University when I knew a lot of this stuff about them. My answers are ringing pretty hollow these days.

  5. You know, ATC, now that you mention it, I do remember hearing that. I also remember that same extended explanation of forgiveness in “Principles of Christian Growth” my freshman year. It didn’t sound quite right, but I didn’t spend much time thinking about why.

    Hmmm. . . .

  6. Unbelievable! We are’nt required to ‘obey’ Jesus command to ‘forgive’others, unless ‘others’ make the first move and ask for it? Unless others apologize, we are’nt obligated to obey Jesus word? Give me a break already! What Bible was that man reading? Big offenses are’nt the only ones that we need to forgive to keep our lives spiritually healthy! Little offenses that we don’t recognize, how easily they can ‘sneak up in our lives’ to collect, like negative baggage,are real ‘spoilers’ which can slowly make us resentful inside without our knowing that this is happening. Little offenses can be and become ‘worse’ than the big ones! I remember a funny scene from MAUDE, where, a family member accidentally ‘dropped’ and ‘broke’ an urn with a deceased family member’s ashes on the kitchen floor. No offense here intended at all to anyone who has recently lost a loved . And MAUDE in her typical funny fashion,, ‘stiffened her angry resntful shoulders and body language’ and said “I demand an apology!’ Which was really quite typical of the unbelieivng world’s way of looking at offenses. Demand apology as people are entitled to it. “Give me what I want or else!’ Here Bob jr. didn’t even ‘want’ an apology! Was he hoping the other person would spiritually fail in this matter, so that Bob jr. could enjoy watching the other ‘wallow’ in his sin? Bob jr. The professional pharisee who enjoyed watching people squirm under his religious thumb? If there’s one thing that God will judge painfully, it is damage joy. Sinful ‘glee’ in watching another person go through personal struggles, as if ‘they deserved to suffer.’ I am choosing to walk in forgiveness to a handful of leaders in my community, who have not honored the true spirit of a renewal program in our parish. I have also chosen to take a sabbatical from leadership myself. But I have enough common sense and the fear of God in my life, to know, that I need to respect those other leaders, and realize that ‘they’re’struggling too, and are feeling rather frustrated and unhappy. But can’t acknowledge that. they’re in a bit of a ‘culture of denial’ state.Something that can happen to any of us. I have compassion on them, and I choose to walk in love toward them. They do not ‘have to’ ask me to forgive them as I already have. And I would not be so arrogant as to ‘demand an apology’ like MAUDE. But if any of them did ask me, I most certainly would extend my forgiveness to them. But it is not I myself they have offended. It has been the participants, the parish guests in the renewal program who were offended. I heard from another leader, who left the meeting early, as she and husband are selling their house, and had to get back to house to open up for a showing,that the first planning meeting for the next renewal course presentation in January, that people at the meeting were arguing. The main leader has had two meetings with my husband about concerns in the past two years. And he ‘didn’t listen
    the first time. The same concerns were just raised to the man with another leader in attendance who was in total agreement with my husband. I mean we all need to forgive. But two years ago my husband was judged for ‘resisting Christ.’ Now much of the leadership, two years later are ‘resisting Christ.’ So they ‘reaped’ the very thing that they ‘sowed’ when they started judging my husband. I am so happy to be on a sabbatical. I realized that my level of tolerannce for frustration with the problems, and my patience level have been breached. I love them. I forgive them. And I’m on a sabbatical. And what a burden has been lifted off my shoulders! I realize that the Lord was trying to show me this, for four months. And I finally I got the message. In case some may resent me for taking the year off the volunteer leadership work, I will just forgive them in advance. But back to Bob jr’s peculiar view of life. The phrase ‘he sees the world through closed eyes’ comes to mind. How a man who called himself christian, could make such an arrogant statement, believe it was amusing, and have no compassion or respect for another person! So ‘someone else’s sin’ was the source of personal amusement to him? Gloating over that and looking down on someone else, made him look and feel superior, sqeaky clean, and sanitized in his own eyes? What a goody goody two shoes christian! Having a snese of hunor at someone else’s expense, isn’t that rather selfish? I think the man told on himself, not realizing how his foolish words carelessly spoken, revealed the sad condition of his heart and his inner life. The verse comes to mind ” without natural affection.” One of the sins Jesus became angered at, was ‘hardness of heart” , “lasciviousness.” May God protect us all from such loveless, apathy and dispassion. May God teach us all ‘how to love.”

  7. There’s so much helpful stuff out there, written about forgiveness- But we need to be careful ‘what’ we buy so we don’t take home false teaching about this. God does not put burdens on His people. God takes them off! “His commandments are not grievous.” I always look in the headings list for the chapters, in the back if there’s a glossary, and do a quick scan of ‘how’ the author talks about this important christian practice. By all means, ‘don’t’ buy anything that ‘smells’ of a false shame / condemnation message, of,God going after His pound of flesh’. which He doesn’t do!We can choose to forgive. And we can acknowledge ‘how we feel’, honestly, without taking negative emotions out on any one. Trust? When broken, it’s the hardest thing to restore. God never demands that we blindly trust people, simply because we have forgiven them. The sad description of loveless, unloving, uncaring christians, comes to mind. I call such christians DCAPS. Christians who simply don’t really care about people anymore. One badly spiritually abused pastor, now healed and restored by the love of God and relearning to trust in a better church’s healthy relationships, shared that his former christian church, had become’a christian cult’, after it had started to go downhill’ spiritually, eventually became a church where’ people really didn’t seem to care about people in their church anymore.’ It seems to always be the sensitive ones, who really want to care about people, who have a sincere personal dedication to live the Gospel, who are the ones who really get ‘hit’ badly, by this dcaps syndrome. And when a church family falls into that, it has become a selfish, uncharitable, hypocritical place. I have heard this same painful cry from wounded abused christians, again and again, maybe not in the same words, but always the same cry…”All I ever wabted to do was serve God.” chrostians who loved God with all their hearts, and who git taken to the cleaners spiritually even financially by leaders and peers who betrayed them. What burns me up with an inner reaction of, “I can’t stand to look at this anymore’,( but I am getting better at handling this ) is, these smiley, nicey, evangelical happy clappy friendly church smiles, that people plaster all over their born again faces, and so many of us, ‘fall for it.’ We think they seem, ‘nice’, we assume they’re ‘committed’ christians, ( which I believe includes christian behavior! which some don’t seem to even know what it is!). And sooner or later these friendly faces change and take on that unpleasant religious scowl. ‘We dont approve of you. You don’t seem to fit in here. We wish you would just go away.’ They don’t really want you around anymore, but they also don’t want to let you go. And if you leave, well, that’s the unforgiveable sin! When I was regaining my sanity many years back, from having to leave a negative fellowship, I sang a funny animal song to myself. “Animal Farm. Animal Farm. I escaped from Animal Farm. Now the devil can do me no harm. I escaped from Animal Farm!’ I also used to write funny sarcastic poems which helped release my frustrations. Still do from time to time.Honesty about ourselves is so much better than denial. One of my favorite Bible teachers, shared that, we can give God something as a gift that can make a big, big difference in our life with God, and that is “we can choose to give God the gift of a spirit of obedience from our heart.’ When it’s real, genuine, sincere, and authentic, it’s always from the heart. It is then when relationships are far more important than rules, people are far more important than programs, and the Saviour is far more important than a religious system. What a wonderful God of Grace we love!

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