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“They Talked Themselves Out of It,” April 1958

In April 1958, Carl McIntire’s ACCC had a series of four broadcasts on NBC. According to Bob Jones, Jr., NBC refused to broadcast this take on Genesis 11 because it was critical of the United Nations and racial integration. Jones himself made the connection between his talking of “separation” and the issue of racial segregation. Until Bob Jones Sr’s 1960 radio sermon on segregation, BJU distributed this manuscript when asked about their position on racial segregation/separation.

Read it for yourself. . . .  Now what were we saying about the BJx enterprise staying out of politics?

“They Talked Themselves Out of It”
Bob Jones, Jr.

Throughout the ages, man has been at war with God. The human will has been set in opposition against the Divine Will. This, in fact, is at the root of all human sin–indeed this is sin.

The Prophet Isaiah gives the perfect definition for sin when he says, “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way . . .” Sin, no matter what form it takes, is nothing more or less than disobedience to the Will of God.

In the very morning of human history, sin and rebellion were so great that God sent a flood to wipe out all flesh from the face of the earth with the exception of the little family of Noah, who had found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

Now after the great deluge, men had begun to multiply on the face of the earth and civilization was expanding westward. We are told in the 11th chapter of the Book of Genesis (The Book of beginnings) that ‘as they journeyed from the easy, they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there.’ Here in the Euphrates valley–in the fertil crescent–men seem to have found a very pleasant place of sojourn.

There was nothing wrong with that–God made the world for man. Its fruit and its increase are for his sustenance. Its mineral wealth for his enrichment. In this alluvial plain there were no stone for building, but the clay was ideal for brick which they made for themselves, burned them in kilns, and ‘they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar.’

Here now in the pleasant place, human rebellion against the Divine Will lifts an ambitious head. The record continues:

And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach until heaven; and let us make a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

From the previous chapter, we know that God’s will was that man should be divided up into nations; lines of separation had been decreed by a wise and loving God–but men are determined that they shall not be thus divided.

God tells us in His Word–the Bible (Acts 17:26): “And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation.”

Men are “of one blood,” but God has set up certain boundaries for different peoples–has established the frontiers of nations, has divided mankind. Men today seek to disregard the boundaries and rub out the frontiers. Unity–not separation–is the popular cry of this hour.

But God has a Will that is not swayed to bend before men’s rebellious ambition. Man cannot break down God’s barriers and disobey God’s decree except at his own peril.

Man is determined to have one world. Not only is God’s Will disobeyed, it is completely ignored. God is left entirely out of the picture as far as man’s plans are concerned. Note how often the personal pronoun is used–“Let us build a city and a tower; let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad.” Five times man used the personal pronoun, and its use here indicates clearly certain things.

First, man intends by his own strength and his own skill to make a city and a tower for himself, thus by his own abilities to acquire a great reputation in order that regardless of what God wills, man shall have his way. This is a perfect picture of what the children of a fallen race have sought to do in all the generations since. Human history is one long record of man’s record to determin his own destiny, perfect in his own institutions, establish his own rule, and have his own way, that man may be glorified. All false religion tends to elevate man and depose God, to exalt human reasoning and human skill as the only necessary element for the building of a perfect world and the creation of Utopia on earth. In view of the record of Man’s failure at Babel, it would certainly seem that the human race should have learned its lesson. But in all the generations since, even in our own day, we see man still striving to accomplish by his own efforts and for his own glorification that which can only be accomplished by the hand of God and according to the Will of God for the glory of God.

God came down and looked over man’s rebellious efforts therein the plain of Shinar these many thousands of years ago, and we are told that God said of them, “Nothing will be restrained from them which they have imagined to do.” So God confused their tongues, and men could no longer understand their neighbors and the dreams and plans for the tower fell apart as mankind was divided by difference of language into the groups of the nations into which God had ordained that man should be divided. The Tower of Babel was a monument to man’s rebellion against God–so is the effort toward “One World” in our day.

God wills that one day there shall be a universal government in the earth, but that government shall be established in God’s time when Jesus Christ the Son of God shall return to the earth to rule as the head of that world government. That government shall be to the glory of God–not to the glory of men, for in that day we are told every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. God declares that He shall establish that government and give the rule to His Son, Jesus Christ.

In Luke 1:32-33 we read “. . . and the Lord God shall give until Him the throne of his father David. And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom shall be no end.”

World peace will come with the reign of the Prince of Peace. One government shall come as the divine gift and men shall bow to the Will of God and under the yoke of the One whom God hath ordained to be the Lord of all things.

4 thoughts on ““They Talked Themselves Out of It,” April 1958

  1. Hey Camille,
    I finally got through the “They Talked themselves Out of…” for the first time. BJ jr. really ‘tells’ on himself in this. …”throughout the ages man has been at war with God…” for 81 years the three Bobs have been at war with the Evangelicals and non-separatist fundies….all men’s blood, is the same color! The same red color of The Blood of the Lamb! …. “perfect in his own institution?….” Isn’t that what the three Bobs and Stephen have been promoting what they believe about BJU?!!! While the man is preaching opinion, he’s ‘telling on himself! Thanks for puttimg this on the web. Barbara Quinn

  2. Hey Camille, I just couldn’t resist this! … God came down and looked at man’s rebellious efforts!…paraphrase USA: The U.S. Governement came down and landed a no-more -tax-free status on BJU! …The tower of Babel was a monument of man’s rebellion against God…BJU was a fortess of doctrinal purity.. that is until God came down and poured His Grace all over the town… and Babble town BJU could no longer believe it was the bastion of all that is true, and BJU Fundy Babble was no longer the mandatory language for those who wanted to keep their job, and for students who didn’t want to be ‘evicted’ in the middle of the night!…in case their different opinions might contaminate the place EEEEK! …world peace will come with the reign of the prince of peace… yes it will, but before that time… God gave us a new heart as new creations, so that His wonderful peace could dwell in our hearts, and we could be peace makers… we do not have to wait until the Second coming to spread His peace and joy around. God called us to be peace makers when He first saved us!This wasso much fun. Thanks for posting this Barbara Quinn.

  3. According to his own logic of men staying within their national and sociological boundaries(“lines of separation had been decreed by a wise and loving God”), I wonder how Bob Jones would justify Europeans coming over to the New World when they had no territorial claims over those areas.

    As long as it is our people breaking through the barriers, or as long as it is for the spread of the gospel, then I guess it is all right.

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